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#1 Posted: 03 Feb @ 04:05 local
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ok know i am no Flash or any thing like that but u would think that once just in awhile i could beat a toss but no. this guy right here cant beat a protoss 2 save his life, so in light of this i have com 2 u ... the Forum 2 try & figher out my lil problem here.

My Last Toss replay

o by the way if u r D rank Plz dont post, D+ is ok but not D thanx

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#2 Posted: 03 Feb @ 04:26 local
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I have an advice for you. what you can do is the following:

1. if you are playing against D or D+ or sometimes C-( C- is they r stupid)
U build factory, take expo (the standard build), and build another factory(so now u have 2), and now instead of building more factories, what u do is build raxes, about 5 with the one u had. then u just pump marines+medics. but here's the key thing , dont let your opponent see your raxes otherwise the first thing they gonna do is build templers, and u are fuked!!!!!!!!and when u feel comfertable with your army go ahead and attack! you should have about 5 or 8 tanks by the time u have finished making the fifth factory, otherwise you lost the game.
2. if your opponent (toss) double expo. i consider double expoing with toss an abuse, so what you do is:
take 3-5 scvs + the marines you have and attack ( build a factory near his base, make sure he doesnt see it). micro your scvs and marines and u should be able to take his expo, build bunker is possible because by the time your bunker is done you should have a tank or if u go for vultures make sure to build 2 facts and make tanks from one.

Well i cant really explain with detail what you have to do, but this is some basic stuff if you want to beat a toss desperatly.
it works tried it myself.

Another tip i would like to give you is, make a wraith, specially i fhe's going for shuttle +reaver drop, just one wraith makes a huge difference, you;ll see what im talking about.

here's the last tip, you can go for firebat drop, it works like a charm , just aim for his probes and u gonna kill them fast.

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#3 Posted: 03 Feb @ 04:27 local
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its because your apm is so low. you need to use hotkeys and be faster.

i didnt even watch replay. get your apm to a respectable 85 and you can maybe beat a shitty toss then.

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#4 Posted: 03 Feb @ 04:31 local
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I wanted to share my ideas on your question but I'm D ranked.

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#5 Posted: 03 Feb @ 04:53 local
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I just watched the first 10 min but i got the idea.You dont have a build order.Try Liquipedia or Stylish

1. you put down rafinery but forgot to finish it.
2.Got supply blocked at 18
3.dont build ebay and academy at the same time . Go for the ebay and add academy jsut before you push out.Those 150 mins coould be put to better use
4.Dont turret spam, you should have 3-4 turrets max to counter the dt or reaver harras. Build 1 at the main min line, 1 at the production facilities and 1 at expo.Try floating the ebay over a turret to hide it .
5. Dont go for vultures early from a fact without addon.Goons will rape you.

The main problem is you dont have a buil orders and freestyle the entire game.Thats why apm is so low. You must always know 1 steps ahead what your next move is going to be. Try to make a plan for the entire game , something like :

Ii wanna push him when he gets his third so i will open FD and keep him back and take my expo .At 60 i put down 4 facts and push at 90 supply . If i get owned i go and turtle if not i push his main after his third. just more in detail

To increse apm you should also try to play at a pace much faster ,a pace at which you feel disconfort.With time your hands will get used and that speed will become natural. The use of hotkeys goes without saying.

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#6 Posted: 03 Feb @ 04:54 local
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QUOTE(iamstr33t ):
I wanted to share my ideas on your question but I'm D ranked.
well u should have said your ideas & then told me u were D... well tell me any ways but no more after u Plz & thanx!

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#7 Posted: 03 Feb @ 04:55 local
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QUOTE(Nword ):
its because your apm is so low. you need to use hotkeys and be faster.

i didnt even watch replay. get your apm to a respectable 85 and you can maybe beat a shitty toss then.
if u did not watch the replay then how can u say its my apm...

i think apm mean nothing by the way

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#8 Posted: 03 Feb @ 05:03 local
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i think apm mean nothing by the way


APM is overrated but that dosent mean it's worthless. 51 is way to low, and you are terran

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#9 Posted: 03 Feb @ 05:03 local
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with 85 apm u have no chance to handle everything which has to be done in the game... espaecially terrans and especially in this matchup it should be moren than double of 85...

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#10 Posted: 03 Feb @ 05:04 local
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QUOTE(Spitfir3 ):
I just watched the first 10 min but i got the idea.You dont have a build order.Try Liquipedia or Stylish

1. you put down rafinery but forgot to finish it.
2.Got supply blocked at 18
3.dont build ebay and academy at the same time . Go for the ebay and add academy jsut before you push out.Those 150 mins coould be put to better use
4.Dont turret spam, you should have 3-4 turrets max to counter the dt or reaver harras. Build 1 at the main min line, 1 at the production facilities and 1 at expo.Try floating the ebay over a turret to hide it .
5. Dont go for vultures early from a fact without addon.Goons will rape you.

The main problem is you dont have a buil orders and freestyle the entire game.Thats why apm is so low. You must always know 1 steps ahead what your next move is going to be. Try to make a plan for the entire game , something like :

Ii wanna push him when he gets his third so i will open FD and keep him back and take my expo .At 60 i put down 4 facts and push at 90 supply . If i get owned i go and turtle if not i push his main after his third. just more in detail

To increse apm you should also try to play at a pace much faster ,a pace at which you feel disconfort.With time your hands will get used and that speed will become natural. The use of hotkeys goes without saying.

man u guys make this game sound so easy "just do it like this & u will win", man 2 have that much control over this must be nice... *sigh*

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